My Message To The Reddit People

don't feed the trolls

Seems like there’s a real pack mentality going on over at Reddit, and everyone is terrified to express a dissenting view for fear of being ganged up on.  I’ve noticed that they all seem to have poor manners and cowardly use the cloak of anonymity that the internet supposedly provides (but really doesn’t, of course) to say things to people they would never have the balls to in real life.

It isn’t so much the barrage of insults that bothers me so much as it is how they all seem to be of one mind, as if there were an eminence grise somewhere secretly monitoring everything, ready to dispatch a goon to whack them across the skull should they step out of line.

They all write baleful comments, but so far none of them, and none from this site either, for that matter, has taken issue with a single shred of my argument and suspicion that Ryan Hillegas was the murderer.  They all say, “You shouldn’t have gone over there on Yom Kipur, what were you thinking?”  Every day of the year is a major holiday somewhere, as it turns out.  It didn’t look like much of a celebration was going on when I was invited in.  And isn’t Christmas the one day, if you’re really celebrating what Christ stood for, that maybe you should consider letting a stranger in?  Isn’t that the whole biblical story, that Christ had to sleep in an animal feeding trough (that’s what a manger is in case you didn’t know) on Christmas (his birthday, and the same day I went over to the Avery’s)?  I think the idea is that we should be kind to people and not turn our backs on them when they are in need.

Anyway, I know you probably shouldn’t yank the ears of a single troll let alone an entire army of them, but I finally got so fed up with the redditors that I had to respond.  Ultimately, how afraid should anyone be of a group of overweight (or ectomorphic), pale, broken white dudes sitting around in their underpants writing comments on reddit?  So I have a message for the Trolls of the internet: bring it motherfuckers!  Me not afraid.

I despair for all of you sniveling, weak-minded frightened pharisees who speak in rude unanimity of my supposed compromised state of mental health. Look around you at the world you live in. Streets crowded with the homeless, a justice system that would embarrass the Soviets, the spiritual void of mass consumerism, and other ills too numerous to innumerate. How many of you righteous have been through the American criminal justice system and experienced first hand its appetite for destruction and dishonesty? The high contempt in which you ordinarily hold the government is willingly exchanged for a childlike gullibility when it is the government, (and make no mistake, the court is a function of the government presided over by such politicians as the sheriff, the DA and the judge — all elected officials) who brands your fellow citizen a “criminal”. Being charged with a certain crime is tantamount to having committed that crime, so we see here the mention that I was charged with murder. Of what relevance could that actually be if it were not so other than the state’s attempt to control the narrative at the outset? Whence your unshakeable faith in only THIS aspect of the government, when you are otherwise able to hold forth as well or better than I on all of the things you DON’T trust about the government. What else could it be but your own well-fed and self-justified cynicism regarding your fellow man and yourself as well, yet your desperate hope to feel superior too? Now that I’ve boxed your ears a little, and hey, after the shit storm I’ve gone through here you should have known you had it coming, I hope one day some of you will get off of your fat hemorrhoided asses, jump on a plane to Ferguson, Manitowoc, Malheur, New York, Chicago, Staten Island, Compton or wherever it’s going down and join your fellow Americans and FUCKING do something for a goddamn change besides cowardly and pathetically taking shots at someone behind the safe glow of your laptop. And if you say that makes me a hypocrite because that’s exactly what I’m doing to Ryan Hillegas, you’re wrong. I’m simply asking him for an alibi because, astonishingly, no one has bothered to do this. Or should we simply avoid looking at alternative suspects because we might hurt someone’s feelings?. As soon as we can simply get a verifiable alibi, this comes to an immediate end, and I’ve said as much to Ryan himself who apparently is a a frequent visitor to my site. By the way, ideape.blogspot now redirects to my new domain, OVERTHROW!

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  • Remember when people used to make fun of digg in the digg vs reddit war? Reddit is currently 100 worse than digg ever was.

    Reddit is the armpit of the internet.

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  • I don’t have a problem with you in Manitowoc, just watch your back. There is a good chance corrupt cops wouldn’t dare pull anything right now, but one never knows.

    Indeed the story of the bones is yet unsolved. It should never have been left to be of insignificance because it would very much be at the heart of a frame job, and frankly, it does not have to be the cops who did that part.

    Regards cops/frame job, I believe it only goes to the point of “helping the case along”. It would have been an absolute no brainer for someone to bring that car onto their property from the south with no one catching them, and in the dark, scattering the bones.

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    • Who you think was the killer should have nothing to do with your opinion of me as a person. I appreciate your opinion, by the way, even though it’s not particularly original or relevant (no offense, but that’s the plain truth). It’s not that I cannot withstand the withering barrage of an ocean of people who question my sanity, and perhaps much else, I just think it is a disservice and a disrespect to those who are here who want to speak for or against my main argument. That, sir, is something you failed to do, but I am nonetheless interested in your views on the matter.

      • Sure. I think Mike Halbach did it with or without help from Ryan. I think this because he admitted to logging into her voicemail and I believe he deleted incriminating messages he left. The fact that Ryan admitted to logging into her phone account proves, in my opinion, that he was collaborating with Mike. It’s too coincidental that they were both accessing her cell phone account. I think Mike (perhaps with Ryan) followed her out there. waited for her to leave, then killed her and left her in the back of the RAV4.
        I think Colbern found the car and called in the plate. Found the body and called Lenk. They suspected Avery, burned the body, moved the car, and planted all evidence.

        • What motive would Mike have had to kill his sister, though? To imagine he was working in concert with Ryan is not difficult, (well it is, but circumstance and facts point that way for now, as heartbreaking as it is) but it’s much easier for me to believe that Mike was influenced by Ryan and not the other way around. Ryan was the older of the two, and he would have had a much stronger motive if Teresa had recently dumped him.

          • Money as a motive? Could Mike/Ryan or both been hired by someone trying to set up Avery and extinguish the law suit? Did anyone look at the financials of Ryan / Mike before and after?? Or even the financials of Dassey and everyone else in the Avery family? Money is always a top motive… And I’m sure that many in the city (sheriff maybe) would have been willing to pay anyone with a plan to bring down Avery…

            The only other motive I can think of would be to get out of serious trouble with law. Was Ryan/Mike/roomate/Anyone in the Avery family recently arrested?? Maybe they made a deal… Offered to set up Steve to have their case dismissed?

          • First of all, it wasn’t his sister… not really. He was her cousin. Her Dad’s brother’s son. When her Dad died, Her mom remarried her Dad’s brother (uncle) making Mike her brother by marriage.
            As for the motive, I don’t know. Maybe they had some weird sex thing going on… May Mike was best friends with Ryan and they decided to kill her. What motive Does Steven Avery have? Theorizing a motive is futile.
            I’m not disputing Ryan masterminded it. Maybe he even did the killing. But I’m almost certain Mike was involved. His demeanor, his haste in disputing logic and fact… his smirks and the verbage he uses…

    • Hey Chris, nice to see you post here. It was a great and insightful one. Thanks.

    • Please put back all of Chris’s comments and many more you deleted were not bad. Comments section makes no sense now. All of your replies remain to empty comments. Not logical.

      • He’s dueling everything to make it look more sensational trying to entice people to pay for the comments…….to pay for disappointment rather.

        • It’s a way of getting rid of trolls. So far it has worked really well. The site is for people who want to discuss Making A Murderer, not for those who want to level personal attacks.

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    • Once we know for sure Ryan’ alibi for October 31st, 2005, I’m very willing to entertain these kinds of theories. Until then, I will continue to press.

  • Where were you when Teresa was murdered ?

    • Portland Oregon, preparing to take my two small boys out for halloween. I have about twenty ironclad alibis.

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  • I think what you’re doing is fantastic. From what I’ve read, most of what you’ve written makes total sense. I find reddit merely throws ridiculous theories out to the public with the hope they’re onto something. They have no real facts, though. Since going through your older posts about Ryan, I am really convinced there is something there.

    The more people tell you to stop.. must mean you’re getting closer. Just my thoughts anyway.

    I would really like to email you about something, might be nothing.. It was actually more of a premonition (for the lack of a better word). Anyway. I’d like to help. Hope to chat soon.

    • Thanks for the encouragement. Sorry your comment wasn’t originally published. It ended up in the spam filter for some reason, and I just around to going through it all today.

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    • I saw the show after it first came out. I went to Wisconsin on a cheap ticket. I talked to the Avery’s, and left. Not really the big deal everyone seems to be making of it. I’ve just found it surprising that the guy who should have been the top suspect all along is still basically flying under the radar and Chuck Avery himself had no idea who he was. I’m also mystified why I was the only one who went when something this horrible happened. Why do people continue to let this kind of thing happen? Why does everyone seem to feel so powerless?

      I get a lot of comments like yours which, in a way is a good thing because it doesn’t seem like you have anything to say about the actual arguments I make. No one does. But what I really want is for people to poke holes in my argument. What have I gotten wrong? What you think of me is irrelevant. I only want to discuss one thing, and that one thing isn’t me. And just for your information, this is not the first time that I’ve been right about a major thing even though everyone told me I was crazy. You know what happened in the past? I quit, and then spent years regretting that I listened to the mob.

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      • The food in the pic is the only food available at the Qwik Trip, the only store I know of within walking distance. I went to Manitowoc, WI and interviewed people, and post original content. I do not leave remarks critical of others just for my own amusement, and with the exception of my post to the reddit people, never at all. The reddit people do their damnedest to establish a casus belli and refuse to be ignored. If I had a word to describe them it would be copropphilliac as this is the medium in which they most enjoy wallowing, smearing themselves, each other, and the walls of the bathroom stalls, as it were, of the internet with excrement. It is with a naughty child and impish delight that they like to throw it, squeeze it through their fingers like play-doh, put it in their hair, your hair, their eyes, your eyes, their mouth, your mouth until the whole world is covered in a revolting brown patina of their own filth. In my experience, each comment of virtually each redditor, like the redditor himself, is part of a collective, ever forming bowel movement which can only be delayed for so long before it needs to be purged. I regard the shit throwers around here in much the same way, just so you know.

        By the way, what did you think of Jerry Buting’s comments on the bones in Rolling Stone magazine? http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/making-a-murderer-steven-averys-lawyer-on-the-evidence-left-out-20160115

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  • @anon#106 I and my family have mutually disowned each other. No one is in any pain, if that makes you feel any better. And what about the pain you’re putting your family through by spending time on my site, dear? Oh, it’s so terrible to imagine!!!

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    • What do you stand to gain by discouraging someone who is exploring a theory? Why do you care so much? Let it go. If it turns into nothing, nothing was lost expiring the idea and then Ryan is out of suspicion. If it does turn into something, at least then we will be closer to knowing who the real murderer(s) is. It’s the least we can do for Teresa, to work towards solving the mystery of her death. She deserves that. Unless you think she doesn’t. I mean, you’re entitled to your own opinion, so that’s fine. But most of us are pretty disturbed that a killer(s) is potentially on the loose.

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    • Don’t let the door hit ya..

      • Why do you always have such a stark, glaring at you look in your pictures? Most people present a smile, or a grin, or some sort of nondescript look. Are you trying to look so intense? It’s somewhat uncomfortable. I imagine you may have heard that before?

        • I tell him all the time he looks super detached and alien like in pics. I am really glad you said something because he acts like I am the only one. I do not know why he won’t at least make his eyes smile even if mouth isn’t. I am hitting reply to person above so do not chastise me for not speaking on Ryan :)