Ryan Hillegas’ Duper’s Delight – That Smirk That Says So Much…

Ryan Hillegas shows signs of duper's delight

This YouTube video aptly describes something called duper’s delight.  It’s an involuntary expression of mirth a person makes, call it a sly grin, a shit-eating-grin and so on, when they’ve duped someone.

The smile that you see playing across Ryan Hillegas’ lips while he is being questioned in court looks like classic Duper’s Delight.  Now that the whole world is talking about Making a Murderer, it is my supposition that he is really smiling now.  I intentionally left on closed captions and the progress bar in the picture itself so readers could go right to these excerpts to see for themselves.


As mentioned, Duper’s Delight is considered a slip, something over which conscious effort has no sovereignty.  But Ryan was putting a lot of effort into trying to convince us that his memory was a bit foggy, and that it was only with great mental effort that he could recall anything.  The two examples clearly show these overly exaggerated expressions.

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Remember how many times we see Ryan look off into space pretending that he can’t remember the details of, say, what time of day it was when he last saw his girl friend of five years who had just gone missing?  If you watch the series through a few times, you’ll notice that no one else acted like this.  If someone didn’t know something, they said it immediately.  If they did, I can’t recall anyone else looking off into space, having difficulty recalling information.  Consider too, that Ryan was much younger than most of the other witnesses; that what he was being asked to recall shouldn’t have been that difficult; and he considered by some to be very intelligent.

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Here is another duper, showing obvious delight during an interview taken soon after she had shot her own children.  It’s rather chilling.

I consider myself somewhat obtuse when it comes to reading people, but doesn’t that look like a smirk to you too?  That’s the self-satisfied expression you wear when you’ve outfoxed all the other idiots in the world you have to put up with.

 

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  • The entire Halbach family were grinning away when greeting Ken Kratz at the start of the Steven Avery sentencing hearing. They did not look to me like a family who were being forced to revisit the death of a beloved daughter and sister. Most unsettling…

  • I agree-also the brother of Theresa displayed duping delight.

  • episode 5. katz questioning hillegas

    katz. before Pam left to travel to the Avery salvage yard , was she provided with a map or any other information?
    Hillegas. Yes , I gave her a map
    Katz. What other information was she provided if you know?
    Hillegas . Scott had borrowed her , his camera just in case they were to find something

    Slip of the tongue??? maybe ….. Scott being Teresa's roomate……. Scott had borrowed HER meaning one of Teresa's cameras . Because maybe they know the RAV4 parked there and that Pam with her daughter would be looking for exactly that, Teresa's car in the salvage yard .

  • That there is and it cannot be discounted, but considered within a broader set of circumstances than is available.

  • Well, seems it was convenient to look at Avery so the city can save 36 plus million. But there is still an abundant amount of evidence againist S.A.

  • It's a terrible, and all too well established fact, that women, statistically, are murdered by the men closest to them. On the mathematical probability alone, it's all the more ridiculous he hasn't been under far more scrutiny.

  • It's difficult to believe that the fellow who organized and led the detailed search team mere days following his last sighting of his ex "at the computer" couldn't recall/didn't know what time of day it was, but knew she was 'dead' while she was missing, and could 'guess' her password… the micro expressions of duping delight, contempt and anger are evident throughout his testimony, and his breathing patterns, clearly discernible, clearly evidence a high degree of anxiety. It's difficult, without a baseline understanding of his personality to determine if that high anxiety is within a normal range for his personality type. However, the contrast to the figure he cuts in the TV footage of the search party, where he appears firmly in control and composed even under such horrid circumstances, is marked. Were I an investigator, I'd be asking him a lot more questions, and looking at any affiliations he may have with the police.

  • The overly exaggerated expressions – I think you're definitely onto something there.

  • watch episode 5. at 40:30, Ryan says that she was dead, not missing. This was days before she was found. Now, I know he was recanting the events but anyone in that position would have been very detailed – hoping Teresa is still alive.
    Let's talk about his heavy breathing and his pale look – he's guilty.

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  • Oh, I got my teeth into this one like a junkyard pit bull.

  • You're onto something man. Don't give up.

  • i think you're onto something, if you extrapolate further…he gets a thrill out of social manipulation….but he cant do that all the time, so he needs a hobby that can bring the same level of thrill….and looking at his facebook….i think extreme windsurfing would qualify.

  • Just to be clear – I know this is my tell for card games like poker and werewolf, were I am lying to trick people. Not a lie when I am telling someone they don't look fat in that :)

  • I thought the exact same thing! People don't realize that this is just a common tell when lying. I do this when I lie – I can't help but smile. When I saw Ryan do this on the stand I immediately thought – oh my gosh, he is lying! I have the exact same tell.

  • Yes, I have seen the show. I think the little gestures are called micro expressions. Thanks so much for your comment.

  • Have you ever seen the show Lie to Me? It talks about the little gestures you have mentioned when someone is lying or hiding something. I do believe this man is who should have been on trial.

  • His smirks are weird but humans do crazy stuff. I remember an NYPD friend told me this trainer from our gym died. I was shocked and upset but from nerves (I guess) I almost laughed. I think it was more of a smile. Sgt says w smirk right back,"You're smiling! You know something or are glad!!?" Of course I felt sad.

  • Thanks for the encouragement.

  • Exactly. By the way, Mike Halbach also has, or had a picture up of himself posing with his sister when she was still alive. I went through everyone who "liked" it, and there were innumerable Halbachs who had. Even Ryan Hillegas liked it. But on Ryan's Facebook, there are far fewer likes, and Mike Halbach, nor any other Halbach for that matter is listed among giving a like.

  • Seeing as I don't know Ryan and have never met him personally, I can only make assumptions here. But, after reviewing his interviews, and his taped proactive and reactive actions to Teresa's murder, I'd guess he exhibits quite a few traits from the psychopathy checklist. look into them if you'd like.

  • Good info. I thought the same exact thing about his smirks and his vague answers about time of day etc. It's interesting to note that Ryan goes by Ryan Hill on FB. Wonder why he's incognito on social media if he has nothing to hide. He posted a picture of Teresa on Dec 23 yet only 3 people commented about her photo. Unless his friends don't know his connection to her. There are no other tributes/photos I could find about her on his page. He probably only posted that photo to time it with the release of the documentary. His answers were sketchy and why the heck, as the ex BF, would even fathom hacking into her account and he happened to just "guess" her password. Yeah whatever liar. Highly doubtful. He's probably the one who erased her vmails because he probably blew up her phone with stalker messages!

    • Or maybe he changed his name on Facebook because of how much harassment he's getting from people saying he killed her?

  • Wow! This is some good stuff. I've considered Hillegas since day one. He's hiding something.