Do Halbach’s Family Pictures Tell Us Anything?

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Teresa Halbach with her family on outside left

Teresa Halbach with her family on outside left

 

I noticed something odd about all of the family pictures I could find of Teresa Halbach. Whenever she is photographed with her step-father/uncle Mike Halbach, she is always the furthest away from him, and always on the outside.  Also, whenever she is photographed with her other her other siblings, she is still always on the outside.  The screen captures that I took are by no means a full inventory, and maybe there are plenty of other photos of Teresa standing next to her step-father/uncle, but I thought I would post these just in the off chance there might be anything to my hunch.

 

Below, Teresa looks to be wearing a forced smile.  Her stepfather’s smile is almost a grimace.  His own two children are closets to him, with her other brother (Tim?) somewhere in-between.  The little girl is giving her older half-sister a strange look.

 

In this next photo, we once again see Teresa on the outside.  And once again, we see Mike Halbach’s own children standing closest to him.  Karen is positioned beneath Mike instead of next to him at his side where one might expect one’s wife to stand.  And she is one the same rank as Teresa, Mike, and Tim, her original three children.
Teresa on the outside of the photograph again

Teresa on the outside of the photograph again

Family dynamics are still evident, possibly, in this picture too.  Teresa on the outside of her half-sisters, her half-sisters clinging to each other.
Teresa on outside left with her two younger sisters

Teresa on outside left with her two younger sisters

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  • I have purchased a legal book for a friend. I am wondering if it would help with winning his case. It’s from Barkanresearch.com. The name of it is “The Colossal Book of Criminal Citations.” I do believe the 2016 edition is coming out soon.

  • Did you find TH’s video on the documentary odd at all? She said she loved her sisters but completely skipped mentioning her brothers and went to I love my family. I have both a brother and a sister, and would never mention one and not the other specifically. I found that weird. I wrote this same thing on Reddit a long time ago., but as long as we were talking weird, I thought I would mention it here.

    • I know that is strange emphasis but sometimes sisters say there is nobody like their sister – the very existence of the video is *extremely suspicious* , it may be that the full video has different context, like the person filming asked her a bunch of questions and ‘if you die…’ was one of them but if the context is as it appears then she joins the rare ranks of suicides, school shooters, politicians/rich people/celebs who fear a stalker or assassin will kill them. its very uncommon and becomes weird when considering that she was likely dating Ryan at that time – they were together 5 years which he calls “dating” like he wants to diminish the importance of the romantic side of their long friendship , also to consider in this context, when the video was filmed and when Ryan was at college they were each others main spouses (like the love of each others lives thus far) and Ryans magazine photo comment was “Women are evil” – people with these kinds of statements generally aren’t referring to their mother or sister but their experiences with the opposite sex in the romantic sense. very very weird

      • I read that Ryan said they had broken up 2 years before. That was when Teresa was 23. I also thought I read that the video she made was around that time, but I can’t be certain.

        Does anyone know exactly when she made that video?

        To me it sounds like therapy or some sort of affirmation of her own value.

        Think about it. You’ve been in a relationship from high school into college and then it ends. Was Ryan abusive? Does anyone know whey they broke up? Was that question ever asked of her friends?

      • I read that Ryan said they had broken up 2 years before. That would have been when Teresa was 23. I thought I read somewhere that the video was made when she was 23. Can anyone say if this is true?

        The video feels like someone who was in therapy or making a self-affirmation.

        Think about it. You’ve just broken up with your first/only? boyfriend after 5 years. Even if you pulled the plug yourself, it’s possible you’re feeling inadequate, or questioning why you ‘wasted’ your time with this guy.

        Has any of this been asked of Teresa’s friends? Why they broke up?

        So many people complain that there isn’t much about Teresa in the story. I agree. Victimology is completely lacking.

  • It was the ex boyfriend and and brother mike with help from the room mate Scott I think his name was. They both had been listening to her vm messages and were very shifting on the stand, nothing the brother said ever seemed like he was angry for what Steven supposedly did to his sister. Why has no one looked into the ex boyfriend any further? Planning that search party was extremely suspicious.

  • The truck was planted! The sergeant called in the tag to the dispatcher of the Rav 4 and then asked the dispatcher ” it is a 99 Toyota right”, days before the truck was discovered. Can we get some sattelite photos?

    • I wonder if the pilots that did the flyovers took any still shots. I’ll have to look back at the dates they were helping

    • There are in fact fly overs from news channels before the car was found. I have no idea how you would obtain these, or zoo in on them if you found them to see if the car was there.

      There are also some from new channels on the documentary (unfortunately for us) without dates, that clearly show the car is not there. But without the date of video, can not make any conclusions.

  • Does anyone know why/what the difficulty is with getting an EDTA test done? In today's science scene why the difficulty?

  • Just curious where you discovered that the lanyard was inventoried before the key showed up?

  • I hope you uncover the TRUTH, Daniel Luke.

  • The stepdad's name was Thomas. Mike is the brother/spokesperson for the Halbach family in the documentary. He too has and odd demeanor. I read somewhere that Mike, Ryan and Bobby Dassey were all friends:

    • I’d love to see that substantiated as I’m sure someone would have twigged, jerome or Dean for example I would expect to make that connection

  • Have you made any efforts to contact the family? Their voice wasnt really represented in the show. You seem like you're smart enough and articulated enough to give them their voice!

  • A nucleated cell is one with a nucleus, that is, not a blood cell. So, that's VERY interesting if it was not blood. And the test for EDTA should not have been admitted by the their own protocols.

  • Actually…

    The EDTA testing methods used in the Avery case are not comparable to the ones used in the OJ case, at all. The OJ case employed multiple labs and well established protocols. The inconclusive nonsense that Dr. LeBeau presented as scientific certainty would not pass a peer review because he threw everything together in under two weeks. It ain't science without reproducible results, which require documented controls and clearly defined limits of detection. LeBeau was obviously acting in the best interests of the state.

    A single source of Halbach DNA found on spent ammunition from Steve's firearm means little when reduced to just a bullet fired from his gun. Consider the facts: that salvage yard is littered with live and spent ammunition. The blunted shape of the ammo suggests it was fired at metal or cement, not bone. Only one source of DNA was supposedly found on it– not blood, just generic nucleated cells. The manner in which the bullet was found defies reason– discovered multiple searches later, free of dust, not connected to any other source DNA. And, last but not least, the Halbach DNA test results were invalidated the moment that technician contaminated the negative control. That protocol that she ignored, and didn't even bother to initially report, that's called science.

    Everything about the RAV 4 key is patently stupid. First off, it's clearly an unused spare. The matching lanyard buckle for the key fob was inventoried two days before the key popped up in plain sight, after 7!! searches in a trailor bedroom. Pshaw! And only Steven's DNA was found on it. Oh, and it goes without saying, …who found it.

    So where's the evidence? Well, some of it was deleted by Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas. Unless, of course, you think that using *67 here and there is more damning than hacking a cellular account with the intent to obstruct justice.

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  • For the record, whether or not you're crossing the line, I've still come to the blog every day for the past week to see what you're up to now

  • This is a really interesting point.

  • Donnie Wahllberg quote: Donnie Wahllberg quote I love the comments on my "Making A Murderer" post. Lots of open minds. Lots of great points. Lots of ANGER!!! ha ha!
    And one very consistent theme with some of the people who "think" they "agree" or "disagree" with my blog: you clearly have only read the heading.
    When you state that I am "right" or "wrong" in my opinion- you clearly miss the point of the piece. Because my opinion about Avery's guilt in the case, is really an afterthought. I am mainly raising questions, in the piece. Questions about people's emotional reaction to the case- a case with questions of similar "suspect" police work to the O.J. case. I know most of you would like to avoid these similarities, and avoid the O.J comparison completely, but if you believe that Steven Avery's case should be thrown out (which I never said that I disagree with), or you believe that he was set up (which is possible, but still doesn't explain or show one ounce of concern for the victim) then shouldn't you have had the same reaction in the O.J. case? A case where the blood evidence, and a certain cop, were 100% proven to be corrupted? In fact- the EDTA blood testing methods were the same in both cases. But O.J.'s test results revealed that the blood in his house was planted. That combined with Mark Fuhrman (of all people) jumping over the wall without a warrant, should have gotten that case thrown out too. But most people didn't want to hear that in the O.J. trial. They just wanted him to fry- regardless of someone like Mark Fuhrman being the key witness and finder of evidence.
    The EDTA test in The Avery case suggested the blood was NOT planted.
    So, if we believe in corruption in the Avery trial- shouldn't we have taken a similar stand in The O.J. trial?
    Yet how many people did?
    Most people were appalled when O.J. was acquitted, and most of those very same people are appalled that Avery was convicted.
    Given the circumstances, and similarities, in both cases… Why the double standard?
    That is the question my post raises.
    That is a fair question.
    If you are not addressing that, then you clearly did not read the post, or you'd rather just avoid the topic.
    Was it a question of race?
    Or were we simply not given enough facts, by the series producers, to properly judge who Steven Avery really is?
    If you are not addressing that, then you are probably just angry and looking for a fight- or being a martyr!!!!!
    ha ha ha!
    O.J. Bloody glove = Avery RAV4 key.
    O.J. Blood in Bronco = Avery Blood in RAV4.
    We wanted justice for Nicole Brown, yet most people seem to not give a damn about Ms Halbach. They all want justice for the most likely (planted evidence or not) suspect- Steven Avery.
    My how times have changed.
    PS- I'd love to see how people would react if Avery burned that cat alive today. They'd probably sign a petition to give him the death penalty, instead of signing one to free him for possibly burning a woman.

    • Too young to have had or have an opinion on the oj case. However, I think the motive of the le in the Avery case is compelling. They were being sued for $36m. Was OJ suing the same law enforcement officials that were framing him? Also, he was wealthy and famous. Perhaps it’s more a discrepancy in socio-ecnomic status than an issue with race.

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  • I think this very same point has been made about 300 times so far. I got the memo. Do you have anything else to say that might actually be interesting?

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  • hahah Daniel, this is by far the best blog on the internet right now. Don't waste too much time rebutting some of these ass twats.

  • You are not in a movie

    There is nothing wrong with spending your time looking into things. Even traveling to the area to interview people in the community. But, showing up on the doorstep of the Avery's 10 years after the case (and thusly being escorted away by law enforcement by their request) and sending manic messages of accusation or all caps condemnation to people involved in a case based upon web-sleuthing is the stuff of an unwell person. I have little doubt that with the delusional mission of inserting yourself into this story, and the contentiousness you seem to approach any criticism of your more questionable methods, you are going to end up getting yourself arrested.

    Again, I think most of the people saying things like this actually agree with some of your views. And even with the idea of doing research and looking into things. But the fact that you can't seem to understand how unsettling your approach has been in some cases is beyond concerning. People are saying "go home" out of concern for you. Not "stop looking", by any means. If you had conducted yourself in a more professional or ethical manner, you would not be getting this kind of backlash.

  • I think the "professionals" already gave it a whack and they did a lousy job. What do you care if I'm here anyway? No one is going to persuade me to "Go home, dude." How would you like it if I started giving you advice about how to live your life? If there's someone pointing a gun at your head telling you to keep reading and to keep these scurrilous comments up, that's one thing, but if that's not the case, why not go bake a cake or something?

  • Keep the faith. People are just jealous cause they don't have the guts to do something above and beyond. You may make a difference, you may not. But like old Teddy R. "better to have tried and failed than etc etc………I personally am living vicariously through your efforts and wants to say thanks

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  • Answering angry and judgmental comments is the most difficult work I've ever had to do. Thank God I lived in Boise, Idaho for three years as a kid when every day of my life was exactly like this, and worse. I have a pretty thick skin. And it does seem like there are a few supporters as well.

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  • For the record, that last comment is not the same person as the first two comments.

  • You are essentially correct. The things you mention are the things that I need to be doing, and will be doing. Thank you for your comment.

  • whathisname? You must mean Ryan Hillegas.

  • That's a little like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it, *Anonymous*?

  • To say that it is impossible to prove something is as audacious, and probably more so, than stating that something can be proven especially when you fail to make any effort whatsoever to support your supposition. Instead of mocking me, I'm far more likely to take you seriously if you give me a compelling reason for why it can't be solved. I should also like to gently remind you that it took eighteen years of wrongful imprisonment for Steven Avery to be exonerated, and I'm pretty sure if I had been back here then, alone, facing an ocean of doubtful readers, you would have been exceedingly eager to offer your words of discouragement.

  • Dear Blog Creator and Netflix Inspired Sherlockian Sooth Sayer,

    Whether one man or both men are in fact innocent or guilty is impossible to determine or prove after simply watching a 10 hour television show that left behind a staggering amount of unanswered questions. Your quizzical nature and desires to "seek the truth" are certainly not unusual but the way you are actually seeking this truth, in my opinion, is bordering on insanity.

    The Powerball jackpot is approaching $700 million as I type this and I am inclined to say that you have exponentially better odds of winning the Powerball than you do of successfully sleuthing your way digitally through Google and physically through Wisconsin in your van with your pal Scooby-Doo hoping to solve this case.

    After randomly stumbling into this blog somehow, at first I thought it was "legit" but after looking a little deeper I am of the opinion that you need to go home and let history run its course.

    The ONLY way Avery will ever feel another sweet breeze of freedom blow through his ZZ Top beard will be a new test showing undeniable proof that the blood inside of that RAV4 contained EDTA.

    Who had the best chance to win the case 10 years ago? Strang and Buting.

    Who has zero chance to solve this now? Check the mirror in your Mystery Van.

    Go home and binge on some Trailer Park Boys instead; the outcome will be much more positive.

    • If you feel uncomfortable with someone who wants to see that justice is truly served, then maybe you need to figure out why, instead of mocking someone for trying.

      If you want Daniel to watch Trailer Park Boys, is it so he’ll be able to relate better to you?

  • I have to say, I'm starting to wonder about the point of this page. If you want to prove Ryan Hillegas did it, you should be doing it in other ways, like talking to people who knew him, finding out how their relationship was, talking to people who went to the Halloween party that night (did Ryan Hillegas show up?) Obtaining Prosecution's evidence (how do they know who called her, and who were the 8 phone calls from that morning?) These are things just off the top of my head.

  • Oh I did not in any mean to stop asking questions or to discontinue your queries!

    My stalking comment was directed towards your showing up at the Avery residence and the texting of whatshisname. Perhaps stalking was a bit of a strong word to use but I didn't mean it in a inflammatory way.

  • You come off as someone with something to hide.

  • Just a concerned reader. No personal connection, I assure you.

  • No one else is here, Tracy. There's no one doing anything. It's just me for now. In the meantime Ken Kratz has gone on a media blitz He is either uncontested when he talks about how biased Making A Murderer was, or he is encouraged by the likes of Nancy Grace who give him every opportunity to trot out the evidence he claims was deliberately excluded by the filmmakers without ever bothering to ask him to explain all the questions that the public has. What utter ad captandum vulgus nonsense. Everyone is allowed to anything they want as long as they are not hurting anyone, and as long as they are not breaking the law. I certainly am not doing those things, and I don't feel I need an official stamp of approval from anyone to write and ask a bunch of questions. I am only a respecter of authority insofar as it warrants my respect.

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